http://911closeup.com/nico/911truthling1204.html

Let's put the facts as boldly and wide open on the table to analyse the current
situation between ny911truth.org, 911truth.org and the 9/11 "truth" movement itself.

"We're" doing this boldly because the purpose *IS* actually to indeed destabilize the top of this structure
or to confuse and weaken the self-appointed leadership of this 9/11 "truth" movement.

It is done to minimize their "limited hangout" manipulations, their abusive power and to make sure that the leadership will not be replaced by similar elements.

I consider the 9/11 Truth Movement as a CULT.
We're all currently 'victims' of this cult concept, among them honest and once respected 9/11 Researchers plus
former members of the 9/11 Science and Justice Alliance (2002-2006).


Fact is for me/us, that 911truth.org is manipulated with a cointel-pro concept.
Fact is also that URANTIA member Les Jamieson leads ny911truth.
Fact is also that STARWARS associates lead the "9/11 Truth Movement" (also called "untruth-" or DoubleSpeak Movement),
which we indentified as the so-called Orwellian 9/11 Truthlings or as expressed with another CartoonLanguage: 'STARWARS Axis of Evil':

1)
Robert Bowman (StarWars concept under Ronald Reagan),
who wants to create an Orwellian doublespeak-9/11 "Truth" party and recently "announced" to run
as a President in 2008.
His brainwashed Followers add constantly new "truthers" and hijacked the word "truth" now also
for absurde personalities like Dustin Hoffman or Scott Ritter.
see 911blogger.com

Steven E. Jones (former and/or current associate of Los Alamos and Department of Energy= DOE, who worked on exotic weaponry like
Cold Fusion (see also a half-hearted and dishonest analysis of breakfornews) , Sonoluminescence and other exotic weaponry.
see also
http://www.veronicachapman.com/nyc911/Jones-Kubiak.htm
Steven Jones, David Kubiak- The Los Alamos Connections

Jim Hoffman (Plagiarizer of the "'wtc 7 research' red herring" and himself a Planehugger reg. Pentagon, Shanksville and NYC)
His family received pre 9/11 STARWARS/Project Trailblazer contracts.
Hoffmans Uncle Jack Hoffman is married with June Armstrong.
Her brother Neil Armstrong ("NASA Moon Missions") received, among many other privatized Military- and Intelligence Contracors) ,
NSA - and NRO contracts for his company Veridian, close to LOCKHEED and RAYTHEON.
Other companies have been i.e. BoozAllen Hamilton (ex-CIA and PNAC James Woolsey) and BTG Inc.,
who worked on this project and officially got killed in that part of the Pentagon on 9/11, which got attacked.

This STARWARS/Project Trailblazer Research was well known and laid out in ewing2001-articles at globalfreepress during 2004, also at team8plus.org
then sabotaged by Mike Ruppert and others.


The 9/11 Truth Movement turned into a CULT a long time ago.
Also at the TOP:

The function of a "god" = David Ray Griffin

Griffin, influenced by new age spiritual kook Alfred North Whitehead, supports a so called "NEW WORLD ORDER" concept and a chinese pantheism cult, http://www.ctr4process.org/projects/china/china_eng.shtml
which is ironically a red herring to distract and blur the Transnational Concept of Globalist Fascists who wants to control the world with privatized Intelligence and Military.
They also obviously plan 'WW4/5' (according to Neocons Eliot Cohen, Norman Podhoretz and James Woolsey WW3 was already the "cold war" and ww4 started right after 9/11, see also 'Bird Flu': From psyOP and population control to "WW4") between U.S. (bogus war on terror, bogus concept Al-Quaida etc..), Russia (gangsterism, mafia, Radiation/Polonium 210- terrorism threataganda against aviation, China (Weaponized Bird Flu and other WMD).
This thesis is i.e. ignored by Alex Jones, LaRouche and Webster Tarpley.


David Ray Griffin to Angie d'Urso, January 2005 on his views on a "theological new world order":

http://www.apfn.net/Messageboard/01-13-05/discussion.cgi.51.html
"...In finding the idea of global government of any sort dangerous, you are certainly endorsing the conventional view. But if you are interested, I would be happy to send you some writings in which I try to show why this conventional view needs to be rethought. Of course, I don’t know exactly why you find the very idea of global government creepy..."


God's bodyguards, let's call them DOGs are here:

1) Steven E. Jones, who represents the scientific and military arm of the movement.
2) HIS bodyguard is GeorgeWashington (*Masonic meme in his nickname) aka Attorney Alexander Floum (his law company represents ICANN, LosAlamos and DOE clients),
who bought and ran the domain of st911.org (9/11 Scholars) in 2005 and censors and controls
at 911blogger.com, itself infiltrated with trolls, US Intelligence Daisy Committees, hangouters,
false-hope patsies, flagwavers, Orwellians and other "helpful idiots", fighting the evidence on 9/11 TV Fakery and ExoticWeaponry. Among the most "prominent" ones: Casseia (allegedly girlfriend of "Somebigguy"), Jonathan "Hangout" Gold, John Albanese, stallion4 (ex-bluelemur), em7, NJcpaTOM (recently "banned" at Pilotsfor911Truth, a planehugger project), YT, johndoeX (-911PilotsforTruth), Dem Bruce Lee Styles, and some others, also often posting anonymously with double identities (Never Forget..., MatchCase etc..), see also Are NPT and Energy Weapons COINTELPRO disinfo? (12/04/2006 )

3) The $$-angle (money angle) and hangout angle: Alex Jones and LooseChange.
4) Some former or current spooks, also supported by wannabee spooks (CartoonLanguage):
Ray McGovern, David Shayler, Robert Steele (temporary attempt) and many others. (9/11 Truthlings however do appreciate end enjoy that Spooks and Military are running this "movement")!

The irony is that none of these Spooks clearly expressed yet, that 9/11 was an "InsideJob" or FalseFlag Operation or also "OutsideJob" at the same time as in using "INSIDE-JOB puppets and plumbers" to destroy the United States in the long run, to be replaced by an Eurasian Business Concept (Goldman Sachs, SCO, BRICs and others).


Closing into disabling this Orwellian Leadership Structure, by completely uninterested "to take over", but with the only reason to destablize the concept of this rulership are the "decoders".
Most of them are still constantly attacked by so called 9/11 Truthlings (CartoonLanguage).

Most attacked decoders are right now:
Rosalee Grable, Gerard Holmgren, Nico Haupt but also many others.
Occasionally other decoders are also linked to them to belittle, discredit and destabilize these attempts.

One of the most aggressive brokers or "programmers" of this attempt is Mark "Butterhead" Bilk (former webmaster of Dick Eastman), who is writing
spam propaganda about the "Holmgren-Grable-Haupt disinfo gang".

Let's decode (decipher the other parts of this "system"):

ny911truth.org and the weekly public meetings at St.Mark's Church are facing since weeks and months, coup d'etat situations from competing "infiltration" concepts.

We have to put a deeper analysis of the character and background of Tom "Tibet" Weiss on hold to easier analyze the structure of ny911 at St. Marks as clear as possible.
Tom Weiss is a veteran 'street activist', as far as i understand occasionally also homeless, which
might explain some frustrations and anger he has,
by putting these aggressions on the weekly ny911truth meetings at St.Marks.
I call him therefore for now a "troll".

Weiss was or still is also a member of the NOPoliceState Group, which often has also speakouts at Union Square.
They also once built the banner "Bush Regime Engineered 9/11" for ny911truth.org, which was co-founded i.e. by Nico Haupt and Angie d'Urso in 2003,
but this banner was later censored and replaced by Nic Levis (ex-911truth.org) and John Albanese, also supported by Bill Douglas (911Visibility).
Both Haupt and d'Urso officially left this group in Spring 2004 and continued their "work" at 9/11 Truth Action and monthly ny9/11 meetups, later also at 911InsideJobbers Yahoogroup and other projects.

During late 2004/early 2005 also Levis and Albanese left the group after finishing their sabotage, which also included to *delay* the traditional evidence on Controlled Demolition of the Twin Towers. Then Les Jamieson officially took over.
The other infiltration continued, also followed in the weekly public meetings at St. Marks Church/Pater Frank Morales, who wasnt aware of this yet until *recently*.


This is however not an attempt to apologize for Tom Weiss.
Weiss is himself either not aware about his own gatekeeper concept or he is willingly using it
to manipulate a general concept to get rid of other false oppositions.

Weiss is himself "false opposition" for many different reasons:

a) Weiss ran recently as a "democrat":
"..Tom Weiss Democrat for U.S. Senate.."
http://tomweissdemocratforussenate.blogspot.com

By running as a democrat, he is giving democrats a pseudo credibility which they lost already years if not decades ago
before 9/11.
The democrats (Pelosi-Baker coalition) are currently part of a fascist regime, covering up the identity of the real 9/11 perps,
which produced a, let's call it false flag operation on Sep 11th, 2001.

b)
Weiss claims, his main intentions are to target "LaRouche infiltatrors" of the so called 9/11 Truth Movement.
He's using a bogus excuse with the fact, that ex-LaRouche member Webster Tarpley was a guest speaker at St. Marks in 2005.
This appears not only to be outdated but also completely naive, since the infiltration of URANTIA and their sub-hubs is much stronger at ny911truth.
As often confirmed, Les Jamieson is using the first amendement as an excuse to run ny911truth as an organisation by being a leader at URANTIA at the same time as well.

Weiss is well aware, that Jamieson is URANTIA (itself an infiltrated cult by US Military- and -Intelligence Members since the 50s),
but not pointing this out, neither in public or on his blogs.



URANTIA- U.S. Intelligence Ties

1942: Jacques Weiss (URANTIA Book translator), OSS
1956 -1965: General Duane Faw (URANTIA Teaching
Mission -TeaM- channeling supporter), USMC/United States Marine Corps, CIA
1969 -1992: Neal Waldrop (Future URANTIA Foundation trustee), NSA, US Navy, U.S. Department of State (1976)
1974 -1983: Professor Duane Faw (Chairman of the URANTIA Brotherhood's Legal Committee), USMC

Jamieson is apparently not US Intelligence or -Military (at least this wasn't proven yet)
but he is obviously (ab)using his power and influence to destabilize the group by "softening" down street activism with the cover that there are at least "weekly infotainments" at Ground Zero.

However Jamieson recently also expressed NOT to buy a DVD burner for the group, because allegedly DVDs can get *lost*.
His argument was overruled by a close "committee" which decided to buy this DVD burner.

Both Jamieson and Weiss claim they're anti-larouchian but at least Weiss is praying the same LaRouche Memes:

a) "Cheney is behind 9/11" and/or the "Shadow Government" also called "invisible government" runs the show in the U.S.
Therefore he is praying the same memes like ex-La Rouchian Webster Tarpley, who himself allowing an own cult around himself , currently led by Dan Abrahamson (RBN Network)

b) Weiss did often express in the past, that he supports Mike Ruppert, from which we know that he was and still is clearly a saboteur of the 9/11 TM by diverting them with suspicious ClubofRome concepts (Peak Oil, Global Warming etc..), disinfo (Vreeland), plagiarization and hangout spin (Wargames), distractions (James Baker "influence") and other diversions (self-pityness, lies on Hunter S. Thompson and other stuff etc...

c) On Weiss' other new blog, tomsupfrontnews.blogspot.com, Weiss claims that he identified the "cops" among the audience of ny911truth.
However Weiss is a bad cop by himself by pseudo-identifying Larouche input, where there isn't much.
In the audience sit instead Freemasons, ex-Reelians and other Cultists.

d) Weiss supports furthermore suspicious "fake-peaceling" Dalai Lama.
see also
Dalai Lama on CIA Payroll? - Pop Occulture Blog
http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/07/25/dalai-lama-on-cia-payroll/


Now we're coming to the subjective analyse of competing coup d'etat concepts at ny911/st.marks, in no particular order:

1) Weiss himself. His goals are not clear. Is he a gatekeeper democrat or a self-deceived and self-obsessed Larouchian?

2) The No-Police State Group, itself diverted by larouchian influence

3) "The Committee" of ny911/st.mark's, currently led by the "controllers" (don't get insulted by the word!) Tom Foti (CFR-, Rockefeller Researcher) and Luke Rudkowski (formerly close friend of Loose Change team, also organizer of a 9/11 truth youth group in NYC.)

Both did "work" with Alex Jones for a while, who is under controversy,
since he's supporting Scientology Memes ("prisonPlanet", Dr. John Breeding)
see also
Alex Jones Promotes Scientology-Affiliated Leaders
http://www.bloglines.com/preview?siteid=6120684&itemid=2161

One might argue, this is "damage" to the 9/11 Truth Movement.
Ironically we have no clear answer on that :)


4) "9/11 air/cancer people", among them some first responders, who got sick after 9/11.
The *problem* is that it is not clear yet, if they link their disease(s) to
a) Asbestos from the Controlled Demolition of the Twin Towers
b) Thermite from the Controlled Demolition of the Twin Towers
c) Any kind of Exotic Weaponry from the Controlled Demolition of the Twin Towers
d) all of the above

Since it is not clear, what the goals of the "9/11 Air people" is, i consider this as a limited hangout, as harsh as it sounds,
because diseases produced by the outcome of 9/11 crime is not proving a false-flag operation.
There is also the risk, that "9/11 air" is itself hijacked by ClubofRome saboteurs to divert the message into
Green "eco fascist" concepts (Biopharmacy - and genetic engineered food, GlobalWarming/Global Colding, Rudolf Steiner School etc...)

Some of these first responders are furthermore used as strawmen, recently also attacked with those agent provocateur shows
of Weiss, who called himself ironically "second responder" to provoke the sick responders.
Weiss often gets removed when he finished these diversions.



5)
Other "infiltration" concepts:
Civil Disobedience projects of any kind, 'anarchy', Anti-Semitism, Anti-Zionism etc....

6)
John Albanese, who wants to destablize ny911truth.org with more limited hangout elements
(Pakistan 9/11 connection, Sibel Edmonds hangouts, "Stand-down" order hangouts and much more).
Rumour has it that he is brainwashed into a multiple identity concept, one of them claims, he's working for Canadian Intelligence.
We have to figure out if this is well-thought disinfo on purpose as well, for whatever resasons.


6) "Re-/Infiltration Concept" of Nico Haupt aka ewing2001.
Some months ago Haupt, at a public event at St.Mark's,
he tried to get the message across that 9/11 TV Fakery took place, together with MIT Rick Rajter and a live phone-call of Gerard Holmgren.
At that time Rajter was a clear member of st911.org (9/11 Scholars).

Meanwhile this group is split into the Jones concept of 9/11 Scholars and the Fetzer concept.
See also:
Orwellian StarWars Thruthlings continue to control the 9/11 Truth
http://www.bloglines.com/preview?siteid=6120684&itemid=2170

Govt Linked Lawyer Alex Floum Takes Over Scholars For 911Truth
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2166
http://www.shoutwire.com/comments/40795/Govt_Linked_Lawyer_Alex_Floum_Takes_Over_Scholars_For_911Truth

PeggyCarter on 911ScholarsGate: "Pope Floum Blesses the Heretics"
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2165

GeorgeWashington "Floum", 911blogger.com changes password for st911 and gives Fetzer the Boot
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2164
http://911bloglines.blogspot.com



The "infiltration concept" of the evidence on 9/11 TV Fakery was partly "successful", since 50% of the audience at st.marks was very open on this idea, that 9/11 TV Fakery took place in 2 live feeds and the majority of post-9/11 footage.
However after a while the audience confused it with the paralell and loyal "no-plane" thesis which is itself "planehugging" or object hugging, since it implies that some unidentified military device(s) might have hit the South Tower *instead* (cloaked or not), while we actually don't know if the South Tower was "hit at all" and theoretically just targeted by an internal explosion, synchronized with the WESCAM cgi-scam (911tvfakery.net)

I decided for myself that 9/11 TV Fakery + Nothing + X 'hit' the South Tower.
That is my own personal formula. If anyone has a problem with it, please point it out and advise.

The other much more successful (re-)infiltration concept is about the use of exotic weaponry of any kind on the TwinTowers on the morning of Sep11th.
The audience of ny911/st.mark's is very open minded on that idea and that's why some of them also want to burn DVDs like Rick Siegel's 911Eyewitness or 911Mysteries , which partly do mention this concept, also recently Judy Wood (as documented on her website and some YOUTUBE doku-mini videos).

That logically explains the resistance of Les Jamieson who does not want these kind of informations circulating within *his* group.

However exotic weaponry of any kind *WAS* was clearly used on 9/11 to pulverize the buildings and it is very plausible,
that a *mix" of different unconventional weaponry/exotic weaponry (now abbreviation: ExoW) had been used on 9/11.
I also argue, that all ExoWs are already 'hangouting against each other' and might be linked to Chinese Satellite StarWars Systems, if the 9/11 perps have to use that spin.
They're currently also able to link "conventional weaponry" to the bogus concept of Al-Quaida (Khalid Shaikh Mohammed etc...)


These are the current suspects of ExoWs which might have been used on 9/11:

1) Nuclear Weapons of any kind which did exist before 9/11 (very plausible)
2) Directed Energy Weapons which did exist before 9/11 (highly plausible, also backed up by visual satellite photo evidence)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_Energy_Weapons

3) Thermite/Thermate (is NOT an exotic weaponry! Use of Thermite/Thermate is however very obvious,
but this is NOT based on the pseudo hangout "evidence" of Professor Steven "Los Alamos" Jones, which was well designed to hangout against ExoW)
4) Nanoweaponry which did exist before 9/11 (plausible, i.e. Nanothermite)
5) Thermobarics (possible, because DoD used them also during Summer 2001 and in ToraBora/Afghanistan)

6) Scalar Weapons or any other classified 'Tesla Weapons' (plausible, but speculative, since we don't know much about the outcome of this weaponry)
7) Laser Weaponry of any kind (plausible, see also Directed Energy Weapons, which is a different genre)
8) Any kind of unidentified, unnamed and classified weaponry (very plausible)
9) Cold Fusion (plausible)
10) Sonoluminescence (very possible, see also
http://www.veronicachapman.com/nyc911/Jones-Kubiak.htm
Steven Jones, David Kubiak- The Los Alamos Connections
Sonoluminescence
11) additional EMP weapons
11) etc...


Frank Morales, meanwhile more a "moderator" of St.Marks is also very open minded of the idea of
multiple and simultanously use of ExoW.
He also supports the idea that 9/11 TV Fakery obviously took place,
for whatever reasons.

CONCLUSION:
1) The (re-)infiltration concepts of the cult concept of the 9/11 Truth Movement will continue, to destabilize
the Orwellian Power of the DoubleSpeakers.
2) The Orwellian leadership will continue to block and sabotage these attempts.

In how far this "process" will lead to some kind of *success*, we honestly cannot see.

911bloglines.com will continue to monitor the 9/11 Truthling Movement, now
also with a weekly RadioPodcast Show.


More on Disinfo and Orwellianisation of the 9/11 Truth Movement:
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http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/disinfo.html

The Truth About Truthlings. Doublethink in Action. Nov 7 2006.
The Problem with Alex Jones Sept 27 2006.
Professor Steven Jones trashes the demolition evidence Aug 26 2006.
Disinformation and the art of Critical thinking Jan 1 2006
The Dark side of Professor Jones Dec 17 2005

The (Phantom) Planes Meme adapted from 911review.com Dec 24 2005
How Mark Rabinowitz and Jim Hoffman Lied about the BTS Data Jan 1 2006
Become an instant 9/11 truth hero. Make up your own evidence ! Jan 6 2006
Jim Hoffman Trashes the Sept 11 Stand Down evidence Jan 6 2006
Scholars For 9/11 Plagiarism and Dinsinformation Feb 6 2006